[shampoo]

ahuh I think HK dominated that time. What I'm saying was that those people were more famous so it's hard to steal the lime light from them. lol Aish now the main focus is mainland, everybody is going to mainland. Now these HK actors barely get noticed unless they get promoted.

lol I think it's the right age for Peter lol

[aiyaja]

^Well, I'm just stating what I've read, you don't have to take my word on it. As for Lift&Oil, I never said that the duo was all about Lift. I said, I noticed that Lift seemed to have sang much more than Oil. Even when Lift&Oil sang together in verses, Lift's voice seemed to have layered on top of Oil's a bit more. Whether who was more popular or not, I don't know because back then, though I was a mini fan, I didn't have access to all of the news and online information like now.

Well, then you have to question as well, Nicky, Alec, Jimmy, Takeshi, were all from Taiwan and around the same age as Peter but they were so popular they overshadowed Peter. It was only recently when all of them seemed to have disappeared, Jimmy entering the army/becoming a car racer, Takeshi residing in Japan, Nicky just wasn't active anymore, and Alec who was the only one who kept doing series but the other spots were wide opened? Now, in Hong Kong, yes. The actors are usually in their late 20's before gaining some popularity and attention but in Taiwan and Mainland, the trends have always been set early just like the Thai industry that's why you have Hu Ge, LYF, Ady, Ariel, Mike, Joe, Vic, Rainie and the rest so very young. As for Alyssa Chia, she's a bit older now but she achieved stardom quite early on of her career, she didn't have to wait either. Peter doesn't fit in the younger generation nor does he run along with his own pack of peers either.

Like I said, I don't have anything against Peter, personally so it's pointless to downplay his attributes like you've mentioned. As an actor who's been acting for quite a while now, he's still quite weak in acting. In terms of his series, they're not the best. I've seen a few of his series and seen his acting and that is my conclusion. If you go to other Chinese boards, you'll read the same thing. I'm not the only one. But again, there are some diehard fans as well that speak otherwise.

As for Hu Ge and Peter, honestly, it's Hu Ge who ranks above, no joke. Again, you don't have to take anything from posts but I've said before that I'm an advocate of the Chinese industry so I know much more pertaining to them versus the Thai industry, something I just began becoming interested 2 years ago.

[Mai]

actually to be honest, lately from the series I've seen, I prefer CTV series over TVB. TVB the actors are getting old, and the few young ones they have left, they've all got so much work on thier face they mine as well play the na'ek

nways what production does Alec play for? I always see the same faces in his series

[Mai]

I wouldnt know anything about the chinese entertainment lol.

as for Lift and Oil, I remember clearly us debating who dominated who of the dual I said yes Lift does have the stronger voice, but they became famous cause Oil was marketable. Lift was just the voice and shadow behind Oil I think someone asked about Oil's singing career, and you said well Oil wasnt the highlight of Oil-Lift nways, Lift was and I disagreed cause even though I wasnt a fan back in the Lift-Oil days, the hype was around Oil

[shampoo]

omg, this internet is dying I forgot what I wrote

anyway, Alec, Nicky, and um who else the oh Jimmy, didn't they took their time in HK and in Mainland? I'm not too sure of the old days anymore lol so don't want to say much They were very famous in China back then.

umm as for Oil and Lift, lol they are duo so they'll shared some popularity but then it always comes down to one stealing the spotlight. Oil has done more lakorn and movie then Lift and I'm sure it's not that Lift wasn't accepting work.

[aiyaja]

^Well, like I said, back then, I didn't have access to all of this information. I just bought the tapes and listened; Lift's voice was leading so normally, anyone would assume so. In terms of Lift&Oil's songs, yes, Lift was dominant but other else, I don't know. I don't remember commenting about their popularity but their songs, yes.

I don't prefer anything anymore. TVB is a bunch of unattractive old folks especially the guys. The rising generation are all talentless and shadowed by the older ones. Then CTV/ATV, their series are still blah...always doing remakes and only remakes. At least TVB doesn't do remakes as much.

[aiyaja]

shampoo, on Nov 22 2007, 03:54 AM, said:

anyway, Alec, Nicky, and um who else the oh Jimmy, didn't they took their time in HK and in Mainland? I'm not too sure of the old days anymore lol so don't want to say much They were very famous in China back then.

Well, that's the thing, Alec, Jimmy, Nicky, and Takeshi didn't even have to directly work in Mainland and they were already so popular, so popular that they worked with the 4 Heavenly Kings at such a young age, thus successfully entering the Hong Kong industry and as we all know, the HK industry was so huge back then. Peter played a small minor gay role for the Butterfly Lovers with Nicky and Charlie. That was the extent. Then later he accepted some bad roles for films and then entered the series trend. Mainland was just developing then so to have Peter, who was already a known face as the leading male, why not? Better than all of those Mainland newbies but now, Mainland has begun to really focus in on only Mainlands like Hu Ge and HXM.

[shampoo]

lol it's all about opportuniy

[Mai]

Even when Oil and Lift did lakorns together, Oil's roles overshadowed Lift's


Who's HXM?

Is Alec really that popular? or is he just getting roles cause lack of

[aiyaja]

I never watched their lakorns because the RS nang'akes were bleh like Bow so I wouldn't know.

HXM is Huang Xiao Ming, the leading male in the new Return of the Condor Heroes with Liu Yi Fei. He was okay before but after this series, he boomed.

Alec is popular but lagging behind, now that there are other options of males now. Alec's series were hits due to the cast, the two series with Zhao Wei and Ruby Lin, strong cast. Then the next one that really made a good impression was Heaven Sword Dragon Sabre with Gao Yuan Yuan and Alyssa Chia, another strong cast. Then The Legendary Siblings with Jimmy Lin was a huge hit too because it combined two Heavenly Princes of Taiwan. Then the other decent series were with decent Korean actresses like Jang Nara and Chae Rim. Alec just knew how to choose his productions, with all the right strong cast to boost him up.

In Romance of the Aegean Sea, Peter was second so even though Peter was already leading a few projects of his own but if he acts alongside his own peers, he falls right back to supporting.

[Mai]

yeah but in chinese series, there's nothing called second, cause a lot of the leading actors are willing to collaborate and share the limelight. There's never one true pra'ek. If that makes any sense. Like for instance, a lot of the guys in the 80s were super popular, but they always collaborate in big projects. Same goes for their leading ladies. Then there's Peter and Hu Ge in this series, and they shared just as much screen time and significance.

[shampoo]

oh look even Aaron Kwok play second to umm Andy Lau lol

[aiyaja]

^LOL, this is different la. This is another one of those Yang stories, it's bound to have many characters sharing the significance of the story because it builds on family. But in Romance of the Aegean Sea, it's a love story. Even Alec became supporting for Leo Ku in Romance in the Rain. Ruby Lin most likely won't ever lead a series with Zhao Wei supporting just like how Noon most likely won't lead a lakorn with Aum as supporting.

There are many stars bundled up together yes, but look at it, has Andy played second to anyone? Rarely, if any. There is still a hierarchy among stars. It's like yeah, Edison leads his own films too but when matched up with Nicholas, he falls to supporting.

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shampoo, on Nov 21 2007, 12:20 PM, said:

Here I found Chinese Paladin with english sub.

I rather watch the thai dubbed, lol well depend cuz I think they dubbed the voice here as well. Not sure if you're going to like it I'm just watching cuz I enjoy it.

http://www.crunchyro...owseries?id=286

I want to watch Chinese Paladin since Esther's in it, thanks for the link

[Mai]

aiyaja, on Nov 22 2007, 04:54 AM, said:

^LOL, this is different la. This is another one of those Yang stories, it's bound to have many characters sharing the significance of the story because it builds on family. But in Romance of the Aegean Sea, it's a love story. Even Alec became supporting for Leo Ku in Romance in the Rain. Ruby Lin most likely won't ever lead a series with Zhao Wei supporting just like how Noon most likely won't lead a lakorn with Aum as supporting.

There are many stars bundled up together yes, but look at it, has Andy played second to anyone? Rarely, if any. There is still a hierarchy among stars. It's like yeah, Edison leads his own films too but when matched up with Nicholas, he falls to supporting.

it's unfair to compare the two industries na. Chinese collaborote, whereas the Thais rarely do collaborations cuase their storylines dont call for it.

Andy Lau played second to Tony on one of the series na, all of them have played second but in the chinese industry, playing second is never really second. If people were to name the lead in the yang brothers, most would say Peter lead that role more than Hu Ge